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HITLER NOT PAGAN AND SATANIST?

 
By mertle at May 23, 2006 - 6:18pm | General

Now I may be wrong here and please feel free to tell me off but....

On this weeks show about the Spear of Destiny it was mentioned that Hitler was a Neo Pagan and also a satanist?

From what I have heard/read and learnt about being a Pagan/Neo Pagan is that Satan comes from Christianity and therefore the real Pagan doesn't believe in Satan?

So how could Hitler really be both? I am not defending the guy, he was just evil, but I am defending the Pagans out there.

Paganism is an Earth loving and God/Goddess belief and has no so called Christian Satan.

Please help me out here??

I would love some replies to this just to clear things up?

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hello

By colinmckay on June 28, 2008 - 8:02pm

You are absolutely right !!!

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Hitler and the Occult

By asayne on May 24, 2006 - 6:26pm

I might be able to help on this one. I've studied this extensivley so heres what I think. Hitler and his boys wanted to bring back old style Germanic paganism mixed with some black magic and the ideas of the 19th century medium Helena Blavatsky. Blavatsky believed in strange stuff like Atlantis and Lemuria and that there were several "root race" of mankind one of which was the Aryans. The Nazis had picked up these wild beliefs primarily from a secret society known as the Thule Society. This secret society essentially set up the fledgling Nazi party in the early 1920s. The goal of Hitler and the inner circle of the Nazi Party was to bring about the reemergence of "Aryan" man onto the earth. There also was an idea that this new race would rule the world and be completly devoid of any kind of reality. All other races and nations would be nothing but slaves to their Aryan masters. In order to do this the Nazis would have to wipe out Christianity. They didn't do this in a direst manner but rather attempted to pull away the foundation off the Judeo-Christain ethics by annhillating the Jews from the Earth. So Hitler really wasn't Pagan in the sense of Ancient paganism but rather wished to start his own form. Hope this makes things clear as mud. :)

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In addition

By Nathan on May 28, 2006 - 1:06am

Don’t feel you are wrong in asking a question like this. It is really a matter of the work usage of the time. Look at the way the word is used different ways in history.

Pagan Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin paganus, from Latin, civilian, country dweller, from pagus country district; akin to Latin pangere to fix

Heathen; especially : a follower of a polytheistic religion (as in ancient Rome)

NeoPagan-Pronunciation: -'pA-g&n
Function: noun
: a person who practices a contemporary form of paganism (as Wicca)

I know it seems like splitting hairs, but the word Pagan is not just the name of some earth loving bunch. It has been used over the centuries to mean every thing from the common or the people’s religion, to meaning anything but Christian.

When you say “Paganism is an Earth loving and God/Goddess belief and has no so called Christian Satan.” you are talking Neo Paganism, which in most cases has no Satan; and like most long names, it has been shortened over time. Even then there are several different beliefs, some that include an evil power as well as a good, that use this name, so the original terminology works. It is the People’s religion.

A term better for Hitler would be an Occultist, trying to find supernatural powers to advance his cause by any and all means, as well as to start his own religion. Which is not to say he was a Satanist, that’s different. He was also a strong believer in Prophecy and used many of Nostradamus’s predictions to try and convince people that the Nazis were sure to win and have a 1000 year rule.

When Hitler is called a Pagan, I believe they are using the term to mean not Christian. I also agree with the conclusion above. ;)

Please forgive any miss spellings, it’s all most 2 AM, I’m sleepy.

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Nathan D. Schoonover
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Death is the starlit strip between the companionship of yesterday and the reunion of tomorrow.
- on monument erected to Mark Twain & Ossip Gabrilowitsch

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on that note

By DarkSoulEater on May 27, 2006 - 9:53am

Mein Kampf is a worthwhile read as well. Much of Hitler's psyche is laid wide open in the work. Very interesting.

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